过多匠气，过少艺心 － 看《阿凡达》

daoshan

周六勉强让朋友拉去看《阿凡达》。以前看《泰坦尼克号》看得很倒胃，远不及老版《冰海沉船》，掺加奶酪罗曼丝（cheezy romance）只多一分嗝腻。

《阿凡达》再次证明卡梅隆只是一个高级工匠（expert craftsman），算不上艺术家 (artist)。他不过是亦步亦趋模仿工匠先辈卢卡斯、斯皮尔博格，进入电脑特技牢笼的又一只猴子，笼外机器人打出的标志说明：“这是我们的进化一链。”

我同意中国影评家高芾所说，卢卡斯、斯皮尔博格、卡梅隆 “这一脉的导演，都是有立场没思想的技术流，” 但其立场并不是高芾所阿谀的 “人文精神”，而只是篝火余烬熏出的童子军妄自尊大的救世梦。成为电脑、机器人展耀的进化链标本遑论 “人文精神”？

除此之外，近三个小时的《阿凡达》没有给我什么更多感触，只能同意美国某影评家的评论：“Avatar does not have much of emotional or intellectual muscle. It’s about as a dumbest movie as what have come down the tube for a long time. Fancy dumb, but still way dumb, with mindless dialogue, endless pointless combats, and the basic operational principle that if your movie isn’t about anything at all, have the audience put on special glasses and maybe they will not notice there is nothing to see.”

rongshutou

好象不至于那么差劲。看来不是楼主的那杯茶而已，LZ的标准定得比较高

老齯

150分钟的立体下来，有点吃不消，米国影院的音响也常常震耳欲聋。老喇。

blue

脚着挺好看，不用哭不用笑不用费脑子去想，大部分景色都很养眼。 那些荧光植物，悬空的岛屿。。。。啧啧。

俺去的IMAX影院椅子还跟着动呢，飞机来了都有震感。据说别地方木有。

莫员外

俺亏大发了，没有电动椅子，只发一副眼镜。

daoshan

Blue says, "不用哭不用笑不用费脑子去想." This attests to the American critic's opinion, "Avatar does not have much of emotional or intellectual muscle. "

二楼

票价巨贵，早场半价，会员再7折，52.5元/人，还是人家的退票，第二排，看得头颈僵硬，没有电动椅，一副眼镜，要先签军令状——损坏陪700元。

panda

>"Avatar does not have much of emotional or intellectual muscle. "

sounds about right. but who need those things? this is a business, entertainment business.  it is the biggest movie so far, that is its goal, mission accomplished. if you want some  "emotional or intellectual muscle", go to sun dance. but I doubt you have better luck there.

wukong

早过了唱“80年代新一辈”年纪了，看个电影还哭？没有搞错罢？

至于想不想，那得看自己脑袋瓜的结构。

Craftsman好啊，我用的很多工具都是Craftsman的。我看一流的craftsman，比伪装高雅的假艺术家们要高明得多。

白花了银子不说，还受了3小时的罪，外加倒了一回胃，you have my sympathy。

还是应了那句话：大俗若雅。

deepocean

Blue says, "不用哭不用笑不用费脑子去想." This attests to the American critic's opinion, "Avatar does ...
daoshan 发表于 2010-1-31 11:47 PM

that is not too hard to overcome. but it needs some work on your part:
For your emotional need: think this is real. this is exactly how Europeans conquered America (ignore the happy ending in the movie).
For your intellectual brain muscle excercise: think hard on everything you see throughout the movie. there is a "scientific" argument behind everything. it is not your grandpa's low budget cheap sci-fi.

昨夜雨

回复 7# 二楼

这个700元有点黑。我这里是买票的时候发给你一副眼镜，看完可以免费回收，也可以带回去当纪念品。说明书上写了，不能当太阳镜用。哈哈。

panda

这个700元有点黑。ZT,
it probably cost 7元, and made in china some where.

blue

回复 9# wukong

你不会哭了是你的问题。7!

rongshutou

I paid only one dollar for the glasses in the Fox Studio cinema here. I keep the glasses  and will save the ONE dollar for next time.

There are only some parts of the movie are 3-D, the rest are just normal wide screen format.

daoshan

回复 8# panda

Well, the cage that robots put Cameron into with a sign “This is the missing link of our evolution” is just too small for him to do any Sundance.  Bet he’ll just walk around in circles following his own shadow, as he did in Terminator II and Terminator III, and you all can, to borrow from Neil Postman, amuse yourselves to death.

daoshan

回复 9# wukong

我再两袖清风，电影还是看得起的。该同情的是你，有点儿“佛山压顶行者昏”的意思，一流 craftsman 跟“伪装高雅的假艺术家们”捭腕子，你这不把卡梅隆说成夹皮沟的小炉匠了吗？大俗若雅就这么个若法？

daoshan

回复 10# deepocean

How can you forget “happy ending,” the top ingredient of the Hollywood formulaic success?

Apart from dopy clichés, try your best and recall just one piece of profound “scientific” argument – nay, it’s perhaps asking too much of you. Try recalling just one memorable line of dialogue from the two-and-half-hour movie.

Someone observed that Cameron is “shouting it at you in a sort of lecturing-to-a-ten-year-old way.”  If you are a ten-year-old, congrats on your good classroom manner.

Wanda

I'm sure people will talk about Avatar a lot longer than the film reivew you mentioned.   卢卡斯、斯皮尔博格、卡梅隆 represent the best of the Sci-Fi genre.  I didn't know what 中国影评家高芾had written, but is there a single Chinse Sci-Fi film you can think of?

panda

>but is there a single Chinse Sci-Fi film you can think of

no, mabye 大闹天宫?

deepocean

回复  deepocean

How can you forget “happy ending,” the top ingredient of the Hollywood formulaic ...
daoshan 发表于 2010-2-1 10:31 PM

My favorite is "we fight terror with terror!"

daoshan

回复 18# Wanda
"...but is there a single Chinse Sci-Fi film you can think of?"

I'm just glad that Chinese filmmakers have not become obsessed with another religion -- scientism.

Wanda

Chinese filmmakers have been obessed with worshipping the Dang Mama.  I'd rather they have a different hobby.

回复 21# daoshan

daoshan

回复 22# Wanda

Totally shallow and touché. If you want to play that trite poison-the-well trick and politicize the discussion, why not open another thread in “焦点话题” to vouch for Avatar’s anti-communist significance?

小中

坚决支持楼主！　我即不喜欢卡梅隆又不喜欢他的电影，都是以华丽遮掩苍白。

Wanda

回复 23# daoshan

“shallow and touché” are way better than ignorance.

daoshan

“shallow and touché” are way better than ignorance."
Wanda 发表于 2010-2-7 02:07 AM

It's a pity you are ignorant of Oscar Wilde's observation,"The supreme vice is shallowness."

Wanda

Heard this one before?

“There is no darkness but ignorance.” --  William Shakespeare

a playwright for a playwright

daoshan

"a playwright for a playwright "

Good, with your shallow imagination, it is safer to follow me step by step, playwright by playwright, even icon by icon.

Wanda

zt HH --
"很多国家的作曲家有哆来咪发少拉稀，但我们国家只有少拉稀，网络时代到来以后，逐渐放开一些，有了咪发少拉稀，不是不能写出好曲子，但难度肯定增加了。因为每一个作家，每一个导演，每一个编剧在落笔的时候都会想，我这段内容会不会通过过审查。所有的编剧都知道一个信条，那就是市长可以是坏人，但市委书记一定要是好人，而且最后纪委一定要把坏人抓走。在物价和生活压力这么大的年代，大家势必更加小心翼翼，生怕龙颜大怒，自己丢了饭碗。当然，这也是中国比以前进步的地方，之前的中国很多人因言获罪，现在的中国最多就是让你禁言，比较少获罪。
比如说以下知名电影都是中国导演拍的，《肖申克的救赎》，我想他在中国就不能通过审查，第一，中国警察怎么会抓错人呢？第二，就算抓错了怎么还能让你跑出去呢？第三，监狱长怎么可能是坏人呢？不予通过。
比如说电影《教父》，不用说了，中国怎么可能有黑帮。不予通过。
比如说电影《蜘蛛侠》《蝙蝠侠》，中国的警察怎么可能搞不定，不予通过。
比如说电影《牯岭街少年杀人事件》，建议改成《牯岭街成人杀人事件》，并且主要要反映我民警如何机智迅速的破案。
比如说电影《杀人回忆》，警察到最后怎么能连凶手都没有找到，不予通过。
比如说电影《贫民窟的百万富翁》，反映社会阴暗和落后的一面，中国怎么可能有贫民窟呢，不予通过。建议将主人公的出身定为普通知识分子家庭，从小学习成绩很好，最后才答对了那些问题。
比如说美剧《24小时》，怎么可能让一个已经被组织开除的人当了英雄拯救国家呢？不予通过。
比如说美剧《SEX AND CITY》，内容都不用审了，名字直接就给屏蔽了。
比如说昆丁的电影——不用说片名了，这个人就压根没拍过电影。
比如说动画片《辛普森一家》，直接抄家。
欢迎大家补充。
当然，有《海上钢琴师》《天堂电影院》《阿凡达》《飞屋历险记》等我们这里稍作修改也能通过审查的电影，但是你知道，这是超越了社会的不和谐去表达人类的电影。这种段数不是说我不能拍ＡＢＣ，所以为了躲避我拍一个Ｄ，而是我拍腻了ＡＢＣ，我想拍个Ｄ。"